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After having browsed through all the 14 pages of the general forum without the success of finding a suitable topic for my question, I feel entitled to open a new threat.

So, I've been listening to Carrighfergus, and I just cannot figure out why the handsome boatsman is supposed to die.
The part I mean is

But the sea is wide, and I can't get over.
And neither have I wings to fly,
Oh! If I could find me a handsome boatsman
To ferry me over to my love and die.

I might be me not being a native speaker. Smiler Maybe someone can enlighten me?

Cheers, Anni
 
Posts: 158 | Registered: August 12, 2009 Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The uilleann pipe introduction was composed and played by Patrick Hutchinson to create, in my view, a "Celtic theme about the sacred image of trees" leading into the adoption of William Butler Yeats' poem: The Two Trees.
 
Posts: 12 | Location: Warriewood | Registered: September 11, 2008 Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Hello everyone,

once again I am puzzled (as I am so often in my life, but I think there is something good about being a bit naive and questioning everything). So, I wondered about the into of THE TWO TREES, Cé hé mise le ulaingt. The only information I found was that it means "Who am I to bear it". But is this a folk song or something that was specifically composed for Loreena, and by whom and why did she chose to use it as an intro to The Two Trees?

Questions, questions, questions.

:-)

Anni
 
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Thank Elizabeth,

That is a great thought and philosophy of life. That no matter how difficult things get (or that life may hand you a lemon as you eloquently put it) there is still beauty in it! That is a wonderful way of thinking! I need to remember that, anytime I feel out of sorts.
 
Posts: 212 | Location: Westchester, New York | Registered: April 17, 2008 Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Hey everyone,

thank you so much for your replies. Yes, my suspicion was also that it was not the boatsman who was to die, but the singer. Just got confused with the grammar.

Did you know that there is an Australian traditional, called "The water is wide" or "My love and I" where there is one stanza that it almost completely like the one I posted above?

@ Lizjul: I belive that there are different kinds of being "tired" of live. Maybe you want to die because life has brought you nothing but pain and sorrow, and you simply cannot deal with it any longer. And then there are the people who have had such a rich and fulfilled life, like the lady you mentioned. There definitely lies a beauty in wanting to die then, before one starts to get so weak and ill, and miserable. I do wish this lady all the best, and may she die in peace. Smiler
As for living a happy or a sad life, I think it's a matter of ones own attitude towards it. There is a saying among young people in Germany that goes like "If life gives you a lemon, ask for salt and tequila" - no matter how hard life deals you, there is still beauty in it and we only have this one chance, so make the best out of it.

Being slightly off topic, but enjoying this conversation immensly,
Anni Smiler
 
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...I feel entitled to open a new threat.


My dear Majesty. You don't open a threat but a thread Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin
Btw, I always thought that the singer was dying and if he had to die he wanted to die in the arms of his love. (never actually read the lyrics, just listened..)
 
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Hi Anni,

It isn't the boatsman that is to die, it is the one that is being ferried over to their love.
 
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Hi there,

That is an interesting question. I wouldn't mind knowing the answer to this myself. I sort of believe that the man who is narrating or telling the story, seems as if he saying that he is ready to die and join his love. That everyone has gone, and wishes be with them. But death may not be ready to take him. Maybe, Maybe not. Roll Eyes

I know that sometimes, there are people in this world who almost are tired of living. There is nice older woman I know, who is in her late 80s. She did tell me that she was ready to move on. She was not weak, or sad, she was just tired. She feels that she has lived long enough. And wishes to leave the world to be with her husband. It's a beautiful song Carrighfergus. I wonder about it.
Roll Eyes
 
Posts: 212 | Location: Westchester, New York | Registered: April 17, 2008 Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Hi Anni. The way i've always sung this is, "To ferry me over, my love to find".

If you need to research any lyrics then my first stop would always be http://www.mudcat.org .

I'll try a link, but i'm not too profficient at this new fangled technology!!

http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysongs.cfm?SongID=1104 .
 
Posts: 21 | Location: steinbach MB, Canada. | Registered: July 28, 2009 Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I don't think it is the boatsman that dies but the singer, in the arms of his love.

But if it is the boatsman that is to die it is so he can not bring the singer back, so the singer can (has to) stay with his love.
 
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