More and more I think of the Bob Dylan song, “The Times They Are A-Changin’.” Well it seems no business or industry is inured from this fact of life and particularly so the music industry.
Quinlan Road began, as many of you know, at my kitchen tabletop and busking on the street. Beyond being a passion, it was inevitable it would become a business. Quinlan Road was built on people hearing the music and then choosing to stay in touch by joining the Quinlan Road Community.
As the music industry continues to evolve, we want to be sure that we don’t lose you in the flotsam and jetsam of the changing times. More than ever, we want to stay close to you, to narrow the distance between ourselves and you and hopefully by doing this we’ll be able to serve you better in a variety of ways. We are hopeful the best way for us all to stay connected is through the Quinlan Road Community – and that you’re enjoying what we have to offer.
As you know, there’s no cost to join and being a member gives you access to front-of-the-line tickets to concerts, participation in online chats, quarterly newsletters, breaking news updates and access to exclusive contests and special offers.
We thank you for your membership and your continued interest in the music and ask that if you know anyone who’s a keen supporter and would benefit from membership, please encourage them to join too.
On a final note, I’d be interested to learn about your thoughts on the current state of the music industry. Do you think music should be free? Do you prefer to get your music online or from a music store? To discuss these and other issues, please visit our message board and share your views.
Please, don't apologize. I understand perfectly: of course you are busy making lots of good music for us to enjoy, and make up for the time you don't spend on this MB by making big posts when you do get a chance to do so.
am I correct? (so much for "I understand perfectly"! )
BIG HUG from Jesse
PS PLEASE come to Australia soon!
Posts: 263 | Location: Latrobe, Australia | Registered: July 15, 2008
I believe that, in a capitalist society in which we live as we are all entitled to charge for our work(we are all entitled to collect money for our work),logically musicians / artists as well. When everything is free (music, but also medical care, electricity, water, bread ....) that humanity will have taken a big step.
The online music is the future, but today is more incomplete / defective (for quality and limitations of the format). I think we need to improve the overall quality. In this way I think music fans will respond even better.
(Thanks )
Posts: 12 | Location: Málaga/Spain | Registered: March 02, 2007
Should music be free? In a word, no. The artists work too hard to not be financially rewarded for the popularity their music can bring. I have no problem paying reasonable rates for music.
Do I prefer to buy online or at a store? Well, for most artists, I prefer to buy online MP3's. However, there are certain artists that I buy the real thing, Loreena being one of them. I enjoy the artwork of the inserts and like having a hard copy. I, however, do prefer to buy online and have it shipped.
Thank you for taking the timet o listen to your community Loreena!
Posts: 29 | Location: Florida | Registered: May 26, 2006
a) Do you think music should be free? In my view the music are free now. Everybody can access using internet to all kind of music ilegal and free. Is a fact. This situation have 2 different consequences: First the music can be hearing by people that in other way never listen it. And this is a free publicity. By other hand the people can decide not to pay for music and that is a big lost of money.
What makes the people buy nowadays a disc knowing that they can download it illegally? I believe that it is the important question....
Many people, your unconditional fans, always are going to buy your CD but there is an important group of population who will download your music of Internet and there is a fine line that separates the fact of be able to buy the CD or of not. I believe that there are ways to cross the line. A good question would be .... you... that normally you pirate music... what does convince you to buying the original CD and what not? b) Do you prefer to get your music online or from a music store? Music store but i am old!!! probably new generations prefers other ways. Usually I download music to know the album but in the time to buy it.... Music Store
Dear Loreena, I feel so glad and grateful to read your post here, I didn't think you would visit the board yourself since you should be really busy with your work.
I'd like to share my thoughts with you about your questions.
1, If music should be free: if everything were free, then I guess we'd be living in heaven. When a mother brings her son his meal, when a wife makes her husband a shirt, they won't cost a penny, because they are families. If we share the world as a family, then everything is free and we get heaven. But since we are here now, if music is free, how should the musicians make their living? So, I guess music will never be free, and we should pay our beloved musicians as to show our gratefulness for the beautiful music. 2, I really don't like digital downloads. When I listen to your music, I'd like to hold the booklet and read every word on it. I think the words and the music are both important. Those digital downloads make me feel "empty"(don't know how to describe my feeling since I'm not an English speaker, hope you could understand me ).
Best regards to you and all the people here. I'm really looking forward to your new recording this winter, Loreena. Cocoa
Posts: 78 | Location: China | Registered: October 31, 2006
On June 27ht, the US Houe of Representives passed legislation permitting record companies to recieve payment from radio stations that play their artists in order to recapture some of the loss due to the internet.
From what has been discussed is the record companies will receive payment from the radio or the businesses that advertise on the stations, then to retrieve their losses the price of the products being advertised will go up and once again it will be at the consumers expense.
I just wonder if this is going to help or if it will just add to the mountain of problems that already exists? Are record companies greedy or are they loosing huge amounts of money? Have you noticed that you are losing money from free downloads off the 'net?
Peace, beauty, and health be with you, Gina
Gina -
These are very good questions. It seems to be a vicious circle of sorts. Sometimes, what appears to be 'greed', is actually a necessity to 'balance the leger'. The record companies need to at least come at par. As well, it all depends on which record company.
It would help to know which ones are striving the hardest to retrieve monies.
I do know where 'royalties' are concerned, the radio stations had to send in a log of the artist's music played. This was many moons ago. Perhaps, the stations slacked throughout time?
I would venture to say if the record companies are going to 'up' their prices for consumers, then the artists signed on must be worthy enough for consumers to want to invest in their music without their being disgruntled. The record companies would probably go through a 'triage process' for 'quality artists'. Sad to say, but the remaining aspiring artists would have to resort to the internet.
A very interesting 'classification system' of musicians is unfolding/emerging. With a lot of competition.
On June 27ht, the US Houe of Representives passed legislation permitting record companies to recieve payment from radio stations that play their artists in order to recapture some of the loss due to the internet.
From what has been discussed is the record companies will receive payment from the radio or the businesses that advertise on the stations, then to retrieve their losses the price of the products being advertised will go up and once again it will be at the consumers expense.
I just wonder if this is going to help or if it will just add to the mountain of problems that already exists? Are record companies greedy or are they loosing huge amounts of money? Have you noticed that you are losing money from free downloads off the 'net?
Peace, beauty, and health be with you, Gina
Posts: 424 | Location: Gold Bar, Washington USA | Registered: November 11, 2006
Dear Loreena, This response is a long time coming to you, but I wanted to express my opinion on the question you raised regarding paying for music. I’m at my job, waiting for the computer to spit out the information I need. I’m also listening to your CD “The Book of Secrets”. I purchased the CD from your website. My job, although it pays me well and the benefits are wonderful, is boring and repetitive. Having music to listen to while here helps to make the days go by faster and less painfully. My work provides a valuable function for my supervisors. I expect to be paid for my efforts. If I go to a doctor, and he/she uses their knowledge to heal me, they expect to be paid. If I hire a painter, a plumber, a landscaper, they expect to be paid in return for their providing me with their skills and talents. Your music and the musical talents of other artists I appreciate and admire add to my life and make it more enjoyable. Just as I wouldn’t steal from a shop, I would not steal from you, by not paying you for your “product”, your music. Further more, if artists are not paid, then they can’t make a living from the “work” they do and will be forced to stop creating. If you were not able to support yourself from your music, how would you meet your everyday expenses? I have purchased your DVD from Alahambra and I am looking forward to watching it. I wish you many more creative, fruitful years.
Ian... Would you be the same Ian Blackaby who is Caroline's manager? //Dennis//
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Originally posted by IBlackaby: Re: PRS etc - Just thought I would pop by to say that although the rules (and systems) are often different from country to country, a fairly representative example is the PRS in the UK who demand that concert venues pay them 3% of the ticket receipts (after deducting sales tax). The venue (or promoter) is obliged to submit a form with the payment that indicates what repertoire has been played by the artists at each concert. That money (less a PRS commission) goes to those songwriters via the collection society's quarterly distributions and via the repsective publishers. It does not go to the performers. IIRC the minimum fee is £30 per event.
Hope that helps, IB
Posts: 152 | Location: Monterey CA | Registered: May 22, 2007
Very Imprecator Full Segmented Markets IS the result of a big cash Monopoly Music market. Normal reaction. We re So Human . Artists & singers (career 25 years and more) find a more profitable biseness with direct concerts and Tours with their targeted markets & surveys . Jack Thanks Shan
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Originally posted by djwayne: Here's a rather long article about the Warner Group, to give you another perspective of today's music business. Looking at the amount of debt they've incurred, being an independent artist has it's benefits.......
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Bronfman, more than his peers, has to live with the import of the Warren Buffett dictum that when you have even a well-run company in a lousy industry, it's the reputation of the industry that remains intact.
Thanks for sharing Dj. It was a bit of a long read, but the impression was screaming out that the 'music industry' has clearly become a 'monopoly game'.
Shan
Sorry about it being such a long article, but it does cover many points. What's shocking to me is that a big company like Warner is so deep in debt.($2.6 Billion) They have to pay out almost $4 million dollars a week in debt service...that's incredible !! No wonder they're screaming about downloads. They've got lots of parties to pay for !!!
Posts: 27 | Location: hit the road again,jack | Registered: February 14, 2007
Laughing my ass off (sorry for my inconvenient language)
Was this before or after Warner invested in the website?
I signed up with lala thru TuneCore a couple of weeks ago and had no idea it was owned by Warner until yesterday. I've been getting some nasty comments about the article on another website, so I decided to delete it from there and here too.
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Originally posted by djwayne: Yikes, it looks like I'm already in business with Warner, as I have a page set up on their new lala website here .....
Warner to Bet $20 Million on Song Rentals 5/28/2008 By Shane Sinnott
According to the website of Michael Robertson, a longtime player in the world of high-tech entrepreneurialism, Warner Music has invested $20 Million in the website lala.com, which is soon to offer a service where you can "buy" songs for ten cents.
The setup is a catalogue of over five million songs, each of which you can stream once for free through your web browser. After that, you can "add" a song to your personal collection for a single credit, which costs ten cents. The catch: the songs aren’t downloadable. You can listen to them as much as you want, but only through a web browser in your personal collection area of the lala.com site — they can’t be put on MP3 players, or iTunes.
Warner is gambling that you’ll pay ten cents to stream something that you can probably get easily (and permanently) for free. This might not be as crazy as it sounds: while I don’t think anybody is going to use the site for serious music buying, for the price of a CD you get 200 songs that you can listen to from any computer with an internet connection anytime you want - perfect for those with office jobs or prone to attending parties with bad music.
A quick look through the catalogue rendered it decent enough as Black Dice, Erics Trip, Charlie Parker and Staple Singers all turned up hits. The site hasn’t yet launched publicly, but you can try it in beta — and you get 50 free credits for signing up.
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Yikes, it looks like I'm already in business with Warner, as I have a page set up on their new lala website here .....
Let me get this straight, its illegal to download, burn and copy music, and the artists aren't giving it away for free. Sounds like theft doesn't it.
I wonder if the active musicians could get royalties from the companies who manufacture the burners, and the mp3 players, blank CD, DVD, Bill Gates, etc. Most of these devices would be useless without music, for most people. Robert.
Posts: 38 | Location: Canada. | Registered: October 31, 2006
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