Celtic Footprints Audio Survey

We have been wanting to undertake some research exercises with you and the greater QR Community, so that we are not creating things which are not wanted or at the wrong price or packaging.

So, we are seeking your input now if you have the time and inclination.

As a process of archival documentation, we undertook recording the recently concluded Celtic Footprints Tour while in Europe. As most of you know, we already have a few “live’ recordings and so some or many of you may not be interested in yet another one. Then again, we had many requests at the concerts as to whether or not we had or were intending to record the concert.

So, before we go to the trouble and expense of mixing, mastering and artwork, we are interested to learn:

  • Did you attend a concert on the Celtic Footprints tour in the spring of 2012?
  • How many people would be interested in such a recording and if so why,… if not, why not?
  • Would you prefer the whole concert (20 tracks) or just highlights (10 tracks) and at what price?
  • Would you prefer digital-only and for what price?
  • Would you prefer a manufactured CD and for what price?

We would greatly appreciate any feedback you can give us until the May 14 at which time we will have to decide which direction we will go.

Please check into our QR Message board for an opportunity to give us your feedback or conversely on our Facebook page. Or simply drop us a note to Postmaster. We are aiming to serve you better and for a price which makes sense while making sure our efforts are relevant and meaningful. Many, many thanks to anyone who can offer us the time.
Original Post
Personally I would like the concert, I talk about this last tour ... both recorded a CD with all songs, this will be the opportunity for those who could not come to enjoy the concert in full ... I personally do not interested in everything to be perfect, I speak of sound or other technical things ... or that is in an elegant package, I would prefer a simple double cd because it's 20 tracks ....
certainly not be called to give, because we must take the lead behind these things there is a huge job and most people work because the result is good ...
So the price will be the same Quinlan decide. The troubadours live is very nice, but not a full concert and saw that there was this year .... why not? this is my opinion ...my english not is well Roll Eyessorry...
betty
That is the first good news of the day; fortunately it has come!
Yes, I'd be very interested in a new live recording, that would be with no doubt a sweet way to recollect the past tour at any future moment. Moreover a live recording has the good quality to seem a unique item, as it is I think, which manages to capture likely variations in voice, arrangements, lyrics' length and the entire performance itself in comparison with a studio recording that must be perfectly "refined"; so despite old material of previous CDs, it must be purchased; I couldn't help buying it.
As to the second question, I'd prefer a 20-track CD at a price around 15 euro (if less, it wouldn't be bad because of slump time).
As I see May 14 as a deadline to give our feedback, I suspect the recording may be sold already during the summer tour, and I couldn't agree more, but hope that it can be found also in stores for those who are going to stay home this July. This makes my opinion clear about the successive points: NO digital-only format, but a manufactured CD whose artwork won't let me down for sure, as any QR item did NEVER.
However, a Celtic Footprints Video could have been amazing as well. Thank you, you make me feel better today Wink.
quote:
Originally posted by Mark:

  • How many people would be interested in such a recording and if so why,… if not, why not?


I would be interested. I think a live recording would be mostly interesting for those who attended the concerts and qould like to have it as a memory. It could also be interesting for those who couldn't attend - either because the concerts were already sold out, or they live outside Europe, or for a variety of other reasons. Generally I think that live recordings are mostly for fans (or for people who already know the music), and not for people who are totally new to the music.

quote:
  • Would you prefer the whole concert (20 tracks) or just highlights (10 tracks) and at what price?


  • The whole, of course. Everyone has their own favourites and I think it wouldn't be fair to exclude anything. Concerning the price I would say: As cheap as possible, by which I do not mean dumping wages and production costs, but fair pricing for everyone. So I agree with Betty here.

    quote:

  • Would you prefer digital-only and for what price?


  • Digital, for the reasons mentioned in my first answer. I think CDs are nice to have, but to be honest, my own are just serving as a dustcatcher in the bookshelf while I listen to music primarily on my computer. Price: See above.

    quote:
  • Would you prefer a manufactured CD and for what price?


  • If there was something like "CD on demand" (like "Books on demand") I would like that. It might save resources.


    May I ask if this live recording would be of one specific concert or a mix of different shows?
    Many bands record their concerts nowadays and sell it on USB right after the concert, so people can buy a version of exactly the concert they attended. I would like that very much because I'd personally prefer a not-so-perfect audio recording (soundwise) to a perfectly mixed and mastered live recording. Each and every concert is unique and I think if you can re-live that concert it would be marveloous.
    (Plus, if they have the chance to get a good quality USB version of the concert afterwards, it might prevent people from filming the concert.)

    Just my 2 cents!
    quote:
    How many people would be interested in such a recording and if so why,… if not, why not?
    I attended the concert in Baden-Baden & am quite sure that many visitors would be interested in the recording.

    Would you prefer the whole concert (20 tracks) or just highlights (10 tracks) and at what price?
    I would prefer the whole concert. I don't care about the price.

    Would you prefer digital-only and for what price?
    I would prefer digital, as that is the easiest & most attractive for buyers.

    Would you prefer a manufactured CD and for what price?

    no
    Hello! Sadly, I will not be able to attend any of Loreena's concerts this season. So I would LOVE to have both the audio and video versions of whatever concerts she would permit to have recorded. And certainly having all the songs on this recording/recordings would be better. As Ms Tudor pointed out, "Everyone has their own favourites."
    So if you record it, I WILL buy it!
    Thanks for asking us (the fans) for opinion. Much appriecieted.

    Personally, I am not big fan of this idea. It is a waste of sources and time.
    We have to be aware that - if you look deeper in Internet - many of performed songs can be listened and watched. Both in good and bad quality. You can even find almost entire show in acceptable quality.

    Many of songs from the Celtic Footfooprint's setlist have been already released on Alhambra or Throubadurs. I think there is no point to do it again, especially with the hit songs like Lady Of Shalott, The Stolen Child or Santiago. I really like these ones, but c'mon, how many times do we have to have them released?
    So according to the below 2 CD version is definetly wrong idea. 1 Cd (10 songs) is a little better - especially with songs which have not been released so far.


    Celtic Footprints Tour is a past. The past is over. Sitting in it can be good for the eldery and the retired Smiler
    Let's look into the future!


    Cheers!
    If your concert contains previously recorded content, which it probably does, I'd say do not go to the trouble to create a 'live' CD. Then again, others may not have all your albums/CDs, etc. I do. Example: Clannad recorded their last concert (years ago). While good, it ended up being a "Best of Clannad." I'm not dissapointed I have that recorded concert, but why not simply mix and master a "Best of Lorenna McKinnett"?

    I am liking the return to your roots. I still think "Elemental" and "Parallel Dreams" are tops. You started drifting towards mid-eastern music with your tracing of the Celts backward.

    Format for me remains CDs. Sure I'll copy it into my MP3 player, but the CD is king.

    For a twenty track album. $25.00 US plus shipping is reasonable.

    Hope this helps.
    I'd be happy with digital only - whole gig (because I couldn't make it) + fairly 'basic' digital booklet with some pics and info. Happy for rough mix to reflect live experience so hoping streamlined production would come in at usual iTunes album price or slightly cheaper direct from QR. Cheers,

    Chris.
    Anyway thanks for sharing with us this decision of whether or not to take the next live ... it's nice because now we are a Clan just like the ancient Celts who gathered together to make an important decision ..! I hope to see a nice double cd!
    betty
    I wouldn't mind a 2CD live set. Even better would be a Blu-Ray release of a Loreena live concert with DTS Master audio sound.
    I would also like to see some of Loreena's previous catlg released on vinyl. There's still something about analog sound quality that can't be beat IMO.
    Well where do I start.....

    First I am not really going to directly answer the questions you have asked but I do have a request/comment which relates to the topic.

    I am a big Loreena fan and I have a single song music video recorded during the Nights from the Alhambra concert (Penelopes song). To the best of my knowledge this is the only single song music video from a live concert provided for sale by Loreena. It is in digital format and was purchased as a single song music video. I would definitely be interested in purchasing similar tour based single song music videos in the future.

    With warm regards and best wishes to Loreena

    Mike Flaherty
    This too is interesting. Thanks for the feedback Celtic Appreciator...

    quote:
    Originally posted by Celtic Appreciator:
    Well where do I start.....

    First I am not really going to directly answer the questions you have asked but I do have a request/comment which relates to the topic.

    I am a big Loreena fan and I have a single song music video recorded during the Nights from the Alhambra concert (Penelopes song). To the best of my knowledge this is the only single song music video from a live concert provided for sale by Loreena. It is in digital format and was purchased as a single song music video. I would definitely be interested in purchasing similar tour based single song music videos in the future.

    With warm regards and best wishes to Loreena

    Mike Flaherty
    Hi there,

    Thank you so much for letting us offer our thoughts on this. For the live recording, if it is all her songs from the Wind That Shakes The Barley, then yes I would be interested.

    However, as much as I love to hear her, I would not be interested in purchasing a CD that has other songs that she previously recorded live. Only because it would be a little redundant and a bit of an overkill.

    Price
    For the live version of the Wind that Shakes The Barley, I would pay $15.00 or whatever the standard is for CDs.

    Packaging
    For the packaging, I would love to see more photos of Loreena and of course of the Band. Perhaps you could get some quotes on each of the band members thoughts on their journey with this tour, inside the jacket. And of course from Loreena. Adds an authenticity to it.

    CD vs Dital Copy and Price
    Both Digital and CD would be good. I'm sure that it would be great to hold the actual cover in one's hand. For the Digital, I would love the price of $10.00 (if that is reasonable)

    Just one final thought. Maybe in the future you could have another DVD. That would be an excellent investment!
    Hi,

    quote:
    Originally posted by dlaws99:
    If you make it, I'll buy it. Probably several...

    It's the same with me!
    But for me, digital-only is no option.
    I want to hold the product in my hands.

    About the price: In my opinion, Quinlan Road has always sold their products at a fair price, so I totally trust you. (The only time I didn't understand the price for a CD was during the tour as the price for the CD "Troubadours on the Rhine" went from 10 up to 15 Euro. But let me say, in Germany 15 Euro for a CD is ok. - In stores you have to pay for the TOTR between 16.99 and 18,99 Euro...)

    I would prefer a recording of the whole concert.

    What I would love to buy, would be a CD/DVD Box featuring the songs and performances of the "Celtic Footprints" and the "Midsummer Nights" Tour. Would that be possible?

    With kind regards,

    Thorsten
    quote:
    Originally posted by Mark:
  • How many people would be interested in such a recording and if so why,… if not, why not?

  • I would very much like to have a live album from Loreena's Celtic Footprints Tour. It would would be a great souvenir for the concert I visited. Plus, I really liked the live versions of the songs from The Wind that Shakes the Barley.
    quote:

  • Would you prefer the whole concert (20 tracks) or just highlights (10 tracks) and at what price?

  • Definitely the whole concert. I guess every one has their favorites.
    quote:

  • Would you prefer digital-only and for what price?
  • Would you prefer a manufactured CD and for what price?

  • I prefer manufactured CDs with booklets. They are beautiful to have.
    (But if that wasn't possible a digital download (as flac-files) would be OK too.)
    A price similar to that of A Mediterranean Odyssey would be all right.

    With best wishes
    Christoph
    I, too, am not all that interested in material that Loreena has already recorded, so I would probably not be interested in a CD of the concert unless it introduces new songs and/or arrangements. However, a DVD/Blu-Ray of the several concerts, regardless of material, would be most welcome. I do not get enough of Loreena performing and her stage presence is half the song! For a goodly-sized DVD (at least an hour long, perhaps two) I would pay close to $30.00 and would be willing to pay more if the recording were longer. If she has "special recordings" of particular songs, that would be wonderful too. I am in particular looking for a full-length rendition of The Bonny Swans and The Highwayman, both of which are my favorites and I cannot decide which one I like best. The shorter versions she sang on Nights at the Alhambra (forgive me if I have the title wrong) were okay, but because they were shorter than the original recording, were not as enjoyable. I love to hear Loreena sing and I absolutely adore her unique arrangements.
    I am a completist and have all Loreena's albums. if another live album comes along, I would buy it. Although I am getting myself into the 21st century by downloading some material, I prefer to have a CD in my hands. I also prefer to have a booklet. There is a tendency these days for digi-packs, which have barely anything other than the disk and the cover. I like to know a bit about the album or to have the lyrics. In the past, the booklets for Loreena's albums have been excellent, but I would understand it if there was no booklet. It must add to the cost.

    Talking of cost, I'm happy to pay the usual price for the album, Bearing in mind, if I buy it direct from the website, it's a lot less than going into a UK music store. Single album or double album, I'll buy it. You can't beat great music - and that's what Loreena and her musicians produce.

    I look forward to a few more concerts in the UK at some point. My wife and I saw her at the Barbican in London in April 2007 and met her the following day when we were travelling to Paris and she was off to Brussels. She was lovely, so I am a devoted and star-struck fan.

    Best regards

    Geoff Hall
    Borehamwood UK
    I would love to see more DVD recording of live concerts. Observing the master musicians at work ...and play. Yet, having purchased all the recordings available of Loreena's music, I do not feel the need for duplicate recordings. Your pricing has always seemed very reasonable and has never limited my decision to purchase her work.
    Susan
    Yes ! I must add that I would love to have the ability to understand the inspiration and the meanings discussed by Loreena in booklet ... I would love to know more of her story, her inspiration and her work/travels.....because it is all so inspiringSmiler)
    Quite unusual to ask the customers before producing, I appreciate that.

    I would buy for sure because i love everything from her. Some details were different from the earlier records, some pieces haven´t been recorded live before. Therefore i clearly prefer the 20 track version and i would be glad, if it will be completed with the songs from summer tour. I even won´t mind if both were combinded. 15 € incl. shipping will be ok for the cd, 10 € for digital version, which i would prefer.

    I joined two concerts (Frankfurt and Munich) because Loreena haven´t been to Europe for a long time and allthough the tickets have been very expensive. I was somewhat sad to hear during the concert, that there will be a second tour with different pieces because i would not be able to afford tickets again. So if i had known from the beginning i would have bought one ticket each.

    Thank you, Loreena, for giving us so many shivers.

    AR
    Welcome back Mark and Loreena!
    I would really love another DVD like Alhambra and Musical Feast. For me it's all about seeing and listening to Loreena's performance. The DVD digipak is great and the price does not matter because I know QR is always reasonable. I'm really not interested this time in a cd because I've already purchased Troubadors and Wind That shakes the barley. A companion booklet with photos' and narratives from Loreena and the other band members would be great also.(See Hubie's photo's on Facebook! LOL) No matter what you decide I will support you!
    Thanks for asking,
    Robert
    Hi Mark,

    thanks so much for asking.

    quote:

    How many people would be interested in such a recording and if so why,… if not, why not?


    I'd be very much interested in such a recording. Firstly because I, like others, buy every release anyway. Moreover, it would be lovely to listen to songs knowing that I attended a specific gig which made it to the release. Finally, and I disagree with others here, even if some of the songs have been published on other releases every performance is different as Loreena and the musicians not only evolve but do things differently even from one evening to the next one.

    Not sure whether or not you recorded audio only, or video as well... Personally, I wouldn't mind having something like 'Alhambra 2.0' (sorry for the awful wording here, I'm a computer scientist...) so CD plus DVD would be cool. During the recent tour quite a few people asked whether there will be a DVD of that night...

    quote:

    Would you prefer the whole concert (20 tracks) or just highlights (10 tracks) and at what price?


    Definitely the whole concert, and using the same set list (wrt the order of songs). And, if possible, no tiny audio breaks ('sound of silence' Smiler ) between the songs.

    quote:

    Would you prefer digital-only and for what price?


    I'd likely buy the digital version as well. As for the price I agree w/ Thorsten in that QR has always sold at a reasonable price range.

    quote:

    Would you prefer a manufactured CD and for what price?


    Absolutely. I, too, want to hold something in my hand after having spent some money. Again, the price doesn't matter to me. A small booklet (containing tour pictures, gig list, and the like) would be nice as well. I'm quite aware of the costs of manufacturing that, though.

    Hope that helps.
    Cheers,
    Stefan.
    Wow!! You made my day Mark! It would be a very special gift...a way to recollect the wonderful moments we shared with Loreena.
    I'd prefer the whole concert( 20 tracks),like "Live in Paris and Toronto" or NFTA...15-20 Euros would be good. Please..a manufactured CD..because I hate digital format WinkI'm a CD fetishist! Big Grin I love the artwork of "live in Paris..",especially the type of paper. Obviously a cd-dvd box set would be the icing on the cake but a live cd is great (and lots of photos!). Thanks Mark and Loreena for this survey.
    Hugs. Gianni.
    Greetings & best wishes to Ms. McKennitt & all at Quinlan Road.

    A recording of the whole concert would be best and I do prefer the CD version to the digital. A booklet with information including a brief history of the pieces chosen and why they were selected is always welcome. Many thanks for asking.
    I have collected most of Ms. McKennitt's "albums" and would appreciate having any recordings to come. I know that much of the material is repeated from other recordings, but each has its own unique sound and subtle differences. One only has to listen to the first CDs and then listen to subsequent recordings. I enjoy the differences immensely.

    I would prefer the whole concert... and like others... I would prefer the CD. I would pay what Quinland Road deems reasonable. I find the current price lists totally reasonable.
    First off.. I would purchase ANYTHING Loreena records..I prefer cd format and the price is whatever Quinlan Road finds reasonable. I would prefer the full concert. I have every recording and video there is that is available and every song, even if available elsewhere, has its beauty and newness each time it is recorded.

    That being said.. I would be interested in the future of new live recordings, or even new studio recordings with a few new "twists" in the music, of "old" classics that are rarely if ever performed live... Breaking the Silence, The Two Trees, Skellig... etc. Tracks that are rarely heard in concert. I support the idea of another live recording, even if some of the songs are available in recent live recordings, but I would want the whole concert available if possible.

    Whatever is decided.. I know I speak for others when I say we love your music and anything you can offer us so we may hear your beautiful recordings anew, is much appreciated.
    I would definitely be interested! The whole concert would be awesome, but I would be happy with just highlights. I heard there were some pieces she performed that weren't on other albums, so that would be a nice thing to include in highlights, along with other favourites. As for pricing, I definitely trust you there; all the other albums have been very reasonably priced. But I will say that I do prefer the tangeability of a CD.
    Thank You for giving your fans the chance of giving you feedback.

    How many people would be interested in such a recording and if so why,… if not, why not?
    I would love to have live concert recordings of LM. As a fan and music fanatic I would probably get all the recordings.
    Would you prefer the whole concert (20 tracks) or just highlights (10 tracks) and at what price?
    I would prefer the whole concert on cd
    Would you prefer digital-only and for what price?
    I am not a MP3 fan but I know to a lot of people it is very important.
    Would you prefer a manufactured CD and for what price?
    I would prefer the CD format at regular price. Most of the products you sell through the web site are at a good price and in the stores also.

    Addtional considerations

    I am also a fan of Dead Can Dance (DCD). Have a look at the way they did their concert recordings. No need for extensive reworking of the product, we want to hear it the way it came out. NOTE that Graceland is also releasing all of Elvis's concerts recorded directly from the board to all the fans. All the DCD concerts were available in limited editions on CD (500 to 1000) and a double LP was producted of the best versions of each songs, once again in a limited edition. The packaging (i.e. cover and insert card) could be generic for all the concerts of the same tour, having the same pictures and writing but with the title and track listing being different (initial printing could be color and the print over of the title and track listing could be in plain black) There would only require some hand assembling of the CD (no plastic wrapper required)

    All these could be sold stricktly through QR (maybe a contracted out company).

    A few years back Pearl Jam did a whole years release of all concerts with a very plain package (2CD). They were very expensive and very rough. Most customers purchased the CD of the concert they were at. Few purchased the whole series. They were sold throught all music stores and chains. Probably not a very cost efficent move. This could be done by a sub company of QR. Maybe ML (Morden Lane)LOL my attempt a humour.

    The general public does buy from record stores but the true LM fan will buy from your site. I manage an HMV store and still buy through your site

    This could be done with every different tour. This could be sold through the merchandising table. Paid before it is even made with shipping built in the cost>
    I would like to have the Celtic Footprint Concert as full lenghth DVD like the Nights of Alhambra which I already purchased. The pricing was reasonable and the quality was great. I joined both Tours and I love to recall the concerts at home uin front of my TV.
    quote:
    Originally posted by Mark:
    We have been wanting to undertake some research exercises with you and the greater QR Community, so that we are not creating things which are not wanted or at the wrong price or packaging.

    So, we are seeking your input now if you have the time and inclination.

    As a process of archival documentation, we undertook recording the recently concluded Celtic Footprints Tour while in Europe. As most of you know, we already have a few “live’ recordings and so some or many of you may not be interested in yet another one. Then again, we had many requests at the concerts as to whether or not we had or were intending to record the concert.

    So, before we go to the trouble and expense of mixing, mastering and artwork, we are interested to learn:

    • How many people would be interested in such a recording and if so why,… if not, why not?
    • Would you prefer the whole concert (20 tracks) or just highlights (10 tracks) and at what price?
    • Would you prefer digital-only and for what price?
    • Would you prefer a manufactured CD and for what price?

    We would greatly appreciate any feedback you can give us until the May 14 at which time we will have to decide which direction we will go.

    Please check into our QR Message board for an opportunity to give us your feedback or conversely on our Facebook page. Or simply drop us a note to Postmaster. We are aiming to serve you better and for a price which makes sense while making sure our efforts are relevant and meaningful. Many, many thanks to anyone who can offer us the time.


    I fully agree with mr./mrs. Henning. But I had one problem with L.M. latest tour to Europe and her performance in Amsterdam.
    I missed, and a lot of people with me, Tal Bergman and Rick Lazar in her band. The concert missed al lot of power and spirit I am used to.
    The only tree people played with some spirit were Loreena, Caroline and Hugh.
    Good morning,

    First of all, I would like to compliment you on investigating and communicating this with the fans.

    I would undoubtedly be interested in the recordings. I planned to give my parents (huge fans as well) tickets for the concerts, but they weren't able to go so in this way they'd still be able to hear the concert.
    We've got all the CDs at home, and every new one to come will be received with just as much enthusiasm. Considering that, we would order the CD, regardless of how many or which tracks are on it.

    Now about my preferences:

    Would you prefer the whole concert (20 tracks) or just highlights (10 tracks) and at what price?
    I would prefer the whole concert, because everyone has his own favourite songs and songs they haven't heard for a long time. Moreover, every live recording has its special treasures; songs that you might particularly like on a certain cd.
    The whole concert also gives you more the idea that you're really at the concert, enjoying the entire performance.

    Would you prefer a manufactured CD and for what price?
    I would prefer a CD, for the following reasons:
    We buy all the CDs, and it would be a pity if one would be missing. (sort of collecting value, hahaha)
    We regularly play the CDs on a cd-player during dinner or daytime in the living room, which would be impossible if there was no CD.
    I myself rip all songs from a CD to my computer in order to listen them on my computer and MP3-player, I would not buy just the downloadable tracks from the internet though.
    Regarding the price: whatever QR would find an appropriate price, but I think a reasonable price would be anywhere between 15 and 25 euro.

    Good luck with deciding and manufacturing and thanks for all the astonishing music!

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